Comments on: Sausal Creek in flood

By: Bruce Tutcher

Bruce Tutcher — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:26:54 +0000

I just visited “the grandfather” for the first time, and was researching facts about it when I saw Russell’s listing. For anybody interested, newspaperarchive.com has the tribune for this date. Here’s the link. The graphic quality is not great, and their OCR rendering of the text takes some work to decipher, but IT EXISTS :-)

http://newspaperarchive.com/oakland-tribune/1969-08-13/page-78/

notice the ‘page’ is noted as 78 by their system, which does not recognize sections.

By the way, though it was, as the article notes, Glen Strouse who did the core sample, it was Paul Covel who discovered the tree and facilitated Mr. Strouse coming here (according to the article).

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By: Russell Yee, Oakland

Russell Yee, Oakland — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:53:28 +0000

Hey Dennis, if it would help you I have copies of Sherwood Burgess’ article, “The Forgotten Redwoods of the East Bay (CHQ 30:1, March 1951), also the 1893 William Gibbons piece “The Redwood in the Oakland Hills” (Erythea 1:8) where he reports the stupendous measurements of coalesced stumps. I also have copies of some Monte Monteagle etc. pieces I found at the EBRPD HQ when I looked there, though that was mostly/all derivative info. LMK if you’d like copies, I’d be happy to supply. I’ve also long wondered if there are any images of the original trees. The only two I’ve come across are: 1. small inset in the 1851 Beechy Map showing the two “Landmark Trees” used to avoid Blossom Rock; and 2. very iffy wisps in that 6-panel panoramic 1853 daguerreotype of SF, with the Oakland hills in the background, @ the Oak Mus.

BTW here are the map coordinates for Old Survivor, you can barely make it out on Google Maps:
37.793129,-122.17477

And the Laverty men’s fine _MacAMetro_ piece:
http://macarthurmetro.org/201103/lhn

By: Dennis Evanosky

Dennis Evanosky — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:56:59 +0000

There is no evidence of Covel measuring the tree. A very close inspection of the tree itself shows that only one core sample was ever taken.

I’d like to thank Russell for finding that article. I shows that Strouse was the one who took the core sample. It also gives a great reference point with that contemporary Oakland Tribune story. I’m in the middle of reprinting my book on the Laurel District, which has a chapter on the redwoods with a photo of “Grandpa,” as I affectionately call the tree. I’ll add this great information to the book.

By: Russell Yee, Oakland

Russell Yee, Oakland — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:59:38 +0000

On the age of “Old Survivor”: I have a copy of the _Oakland Tribune_. Wed. Aug 13, 1969 p. 28-A “Original Redwood Here” which states, “Glen Strouse of the Humboldt State college forestry department was brought in and took a tiny core sample from the tree. Microscopic examination of the growth rings show it is 415 to 420 years old.”

Adding 42 years to bring us up to date gives 457 – 462 years old today.

By: Ben Burress

Ben Burress — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:35:43 +0000

I have been told that the redwood (oldest living in Oakland) you mention is more like 500+ years old; it was core-sampled by naturalist Paul Covel back in the 60′s or 70′s.

By: Dennis Evanosky

Dennis Evanosky — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:45:52 +0000

Hi Andrew,

I have always loved this blog and the sidewalk stamp blog. I’m an Oakland historian and love this place. Ive written a book about Mountian View Cemetery, site of the famous knockers (and more), one about the Laurel District where I live and a few more. I have one in the cooker about Dimond and Fruitvale. (check it out http://www.evanosky.info.

There’s no mystery about the loggers floating the logs down the creeks. They simply didn’t do it. They used Sausal, Horseshoe (near Leona Lodge,) Palo Seco and Redwood (and other ) creeks as ready-made logging roads. They trimmed the lower branches, felled the the trees, trimmed the rest of the branchs and strewed this “duff” onto the creek beds to create a road for the oxen to haul the logs to the mills (there was one on Sausal Creek and several more in today’s Redwood Park) or to the stations where they’d prepare thelogs for their journey to the Estuary.

I give the walking tour in the Oakland redwoods for the Oakland Heritage Alliance and another in Leona Heights. I’d love to take you through the Horseshoe Creek redwoods, and up to see the oldest tree in Oakland, it’s 400-plus-years old. There is so much more: two Native American hematite sites, the sulphur mines and the interesting remains of the rock quarries.

I would be very interested in taking a hike sharing some knowledge.

Dennis

[Hi Dennis! I'll send email soon. --Andrew]